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		<title>By: Stephen Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://mybrc.myobnet.com/2010/01/21/cold-hard-fax/comment-page-1/#comment-4995</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 03:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonia - using a naked DSL service was what I was hinting at there. I wasn&#039;t very clear on that point. Thanks for pointing that out.

It is going off on a bit of a tangent, but I see value in using naked DSL services.

For those who don&#039;t know what naked DSL means, it is where the DSL isn&#039;t provisioned over a line with a phone number. On the upside, this means you don&#039;t pay line rental (last time I checked it was about $30/month). The downside is that you cannot receive normal telephone services over this line, although in my opinion this can be largely negated using VoIP and online faxing services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonia &#8211; using a naked DSL service was what I was hinting at there. I wasn&#8217;t very clear on that point. Thanks for pointing that out.</p>
<p>It is going off on a bit of a tangent, but I see value in using naked DSL services.</p>
<p>For those who don&#8217;t know what naked DSL means, it is where the DSL isn&#8217;t provisioned over a line with a phone number. On the upside, this means you don&#8217;t pay line rental (last time I checked it was about $30/month). The downside is that you cannot receive normal telephone services over this line, although in my opinion this can be largely negated using VoIP and online faxing services.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Hassing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Hassing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you, Sonia. I&#039;ve read about the 80:20 rule too often not to believe it. 

Concentrating on A-list clients is good for you and good for them. C&#039;s and D&#039;s - the ones who spend bugger money all but never stop complaining - deserve new homes far away.

&#039;Sacking&#039; clients or letting them drift away is utterly counter intuitive to an (especially new) business. But, as you&#039;ve heard, the payoffs are huge.

And when we have fun, our clients have fun. And everyone lives long and prospers. You&#039;re spot on about that blog post, Sonia. Thanks for the idea. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you, Sonia. I&#8217;ve read about the 80:20 rule too often not to believe it. </p>
<p>Concentrating on A-list clients is good for you and good for them. C&#8217;s and D&#8217;s &#8211; the ones who spend bugger money all but never stop complaining &#8211; deserve new homes far away.</p>
<p>&#8216;Sacking&#8217; clients or letting them drift away is utterly counter intuitive to an (especially new) business. But, as you&#8217;ve heard, the payoffs are huge.</p>
<p>And when we have fun, our clients have fun. And everyone lives long and prospers. You&#8217;re spot on about that blog post, Sonia. Thanks for the idea. <img src='http://mybrc.myobnet.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sonia Cuff</title>
		<link>http://mybrc.myobnet.com/2010/01/21/cold-hard-fax/comment-page-1/#comment-4967</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonia Cuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen H: re faxing software still needing a landline, yes you&#039;re right but you can use the landline that your ADSL service uses (assuming it&#039;s a normal full service line and not a &#039;naked&#039; DSL service).

Luke:  It&#039;s interesting to see a photographer employ the &#039;selective client&#039; methodology.  We&#039;re certainly at the stage in our I.T. business where our clients have to fit a certain shape &amp; attitude before we&#039;ll work with them.  It may sound kinda snobby, but we can&#039;t work as effectively or deliver the best results for our clients if we&#039;re trying to be all things to all people.  I know a great story of an accountant who sacked 80% of his clients and his business took off.  Could be another blog post topic in this one, Paul!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen H: re faxing software still needing a landline, yes you&#8217;re right but you can use the landline that your ADSL service uses (assuming it&#8217;s a normal full service line and not a &#8216;naked&#8217; DSL service).</p>
<p>Luke:  It&#8217;s interesting to see a photographer employ the &#8217;selective client&#8217; methodology.  We&#8217;re certainly at the stage in our I.T. business where our clients have to fit a certain shape &amp; attitude before we&#8217;ll work with them.  It may sound kinda snobby, but we can&#8217;t work as effectively or deliver the best results for our clients if we&#8217;re trying to be all things to all people.  I know a great story of an accountant who sacked 80% of his clients and his business took off.  Could be another blog post topic in this one, Paul!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Hassing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Hassing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 05:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me just say, Stephen H, that your &#039;non-user&#039; points are better than a truckload of &#039;expert&#039; advice I&#039;ve received over the years. Thanks, yet again, for being so generous with your knowledge. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me just say, Stephen H, that your &#8216;non-user&#8217; points are better than a truckload of &#8216;expert&#8217; advice I&#8217;ve received over the years. Thanks, yet again, for being so generous with your knowledge. <img src='http://mybrc.myobnet.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Maralyn K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maralyn K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 04:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luke Faxing is only one of any number of ways of communicating and it&#039;s certainly not the only way in which we receive orders.

Yes, like you I dislike tyre kickers and those who shop on price alone.  Price shoppers ignore the depth of knowledge, experience and bloody hard work that goes into making a premium product/service that many others are unable to match.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke Faxing is only one of any number of ways of communicating and it&#8217;s certainly not the only way in which we receive orders.</p>
<p>Yes, like you I dislike tyre kickers and those who shop on price alone.  Price shoppers ignore the depth of knowledge, experience and bloody hard work that goes into making a premium product/service that many others are unable to match.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Hamilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 04:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate fax machines/faxes/faxing. But some people either prefer to, or need to use this antiquated method. So they&#039;re not totally dead yet.

I don&#039;t use any faxing software either; I just don&#039;t have the need to send or receive faxes. But for those that do fax, I&#039;d recommend looking into your option in this regard. It may be worth pointing there are two general ways to go here:

1. PC/Server based faxing software (like Stephen &amp; Sonia mention) - this still requires a landline connection, but you can toss the fax machine. A good option if you rarely use a fax machine, as this will save you money maintaining it (a key point in Paul&#039;s post above). You still pay for the line rental/call costs.

2. Online fax services (possibly what Luke was refering to?) - Doesn&#039;t require a landline, or a fax machine. Usually operates via email. Costs vary, but you have no expenses for landlines or equipment as you only need an internet connection. (BTW - if you still think you need a phone service bundled with your internet, think again). This isn&#039;t always cheaper, but it has the big advantage that you can easily send and receive faxes from anywhere in the world.

NB: As a non-user, I am not in a position to give specific advice about different faxing software or online services. I just thought it was a point worth making.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate fax machines/faxes/faxing. But some people either prefer to, or need to use this antiquated method. So they&#8217;re not totally dead yet.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t use any faxing software either; I just don&#8217;t have the need to send or receive faxes. But for those that do fax, I&#8217;d recommend looking into your option in this regard. It may be worth pointing there are two general ways to go here:</p>
<p>1. PC/Server based faxing software (like Stephen &amp; Sonia mention) &#8211; this still requires a landline connection, but you can toss the fax machine. A good option if you rarely use a fax machine, as this will save you money maintaining it (a key point in Paul&#8217;s post above). You still pay for the line rental/call costs.</p>
<p>2. Online fax services (possibly what Luke was refering to?) &#8211; Doesn&#8217;t require a landline, or a fax machine. Usually operates via email. Costs vary, but you have no expenses for landlines or equipment as you only need an internet connection. (BTW &#8211; if you still think you need a phone service bundled with your internet, think again). This isn&#8217;t always cheaper, but it has the big advantage that you can easily send and receive faxes from anywhere in the world.</p>
<p>NB: As a non-user, I am not in a position to give specific advice about different faxing software or online services. I just thought it was a point worth making.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Glanville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Glanville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 04:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks mate :-)

Nothin&#039; smancy, just a link to my blog. In the spirit of noSh-it!, I&#039;ve kept the openness &amp; &#039;warts &#039;n all&#039; thing happenin&#039;...so because the ideas are still organising and very much up for discussion, it&#039;s probably not the easiest of reads from me...but ya get that :-)

Anyway, gotta start somewhere :-). I do hope to engage some interested folks, as this time it&#039;s definitely not a &#039;one man show&#039;. :-)

Thanks Paul and Megan and folks for your good will in allowing me this indulgence and opportunity.

Oh! That&#039;s right...the link :-) - &lt;a href=&quot;http://edits.nosh-it-wood-fired-pizza.com.au/2010/01/21/what-tha-hell-has-this-got-to-do-with-pizzasii/comment-page-1/#comment-93&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the link&lt;/a&gt; :-P

Cheers

Stephen G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks mate <img src='http://mybrc.myobnet.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Nothin&#8217; smancy, just a link to my blog. In the spirit of noSh-it!, I&#8217;ve kept the openness &amp; &#8216;warts &#8216;n all&#8217; thing happenin&#8217;&#8230;so because the ideas are still organising and very much up for discussion, it&#8217;s probably not the easiest of reads from me&#8230;but ya get that <img src='http://mybrc.myobnet.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway, gotta start somewhere <img src='http://mybrc.myobnet.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> . I do hope to engage some interested folks, as this time it&#8217;s definitely not a &#8216;one man show&#8217;. <img src='http://mybrc.myobnet.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks Paul and Megan and folks for your good will in allowing me this indulgence and opportunity.</p>
<p>Oh! That&#8217;s right&#8230;the link <img src='http://mybrc.myobnet.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8211; <a href="http://edits.nosh-it-wood-fired-pizza.com.au/2010/01/21/what-tha-hell-has-this-got-to-do-with-pizzasii/comment-page-1/#comment-93" rel="nofollow">the link</a> <img src='http://mybrc.myobnet.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Stephen G</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Arms</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke Arms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 03:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Maralyn: I hear where you&#039;re coming from, but I think there is more wisdom to be found in creating a product or service so desirable that people will contact you by whatever means possible in order to buy it. If having a fax number really is the difference between getting an order and not getting an order, it might be time for the business in question to look for new ways to differentiate itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Maralyn: I hear where you&#8217;re coming from, but I think there is more wisdom to be found in creating a product or service so desirable that people will contact you by whatever means possible in order to buy it. If having a fax number really is the difference between getting an order and not getting an order, it might be time for the business in question to look for new ways to differentiate itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Hassing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Hassing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 03:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice anecdote, Malcolm. Maybe you live in a fax blackout zone and the cane ended up in a smoke signal fire! :) Thanks for your kind words. Our community does seem to be thriving. Great stuff! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice anecdote, Malcolm. Maybe you live in a fax blackout zone and the cane ended up in a smoke signal fire! <img src='http://mybrc.myobnet.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Thanks for your kind words. Our community does seem to be thriving. Great stuff! <img src='http://mybrc.myobnet.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Paul Hassing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Hassing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 03:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Maralyn. In both world wars, carrier pigeons were sometimes the ONLY way to get messages through. Birds won medals for &#039;bravery&#039; and their messages literally saved lives. 

This medium is rather less popular now. The same goes for heliographs, telegrams and telexes (all vital in their times). 

I do see your point about not slamming doors in people&#039;s faces. However, I also respect Luke&#039;s wish to filter out unsophisticated &#039;tyre kickers&#039; so he can do his best for his A-List clients.

I&#039;m grateful to both of you for raising your points. I&#039;m even more grateful that we can retain the civil tone of this forum. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Maralyn. In both world wars, carrier pigeons were sometimes the ONLY way to get messages through. Birds won medals for &#8216;bravery&#8217; and their messages literally saved lives. </p>
<p>This medium is rather less popular now. The same goes for heliographs, telegrams and telexes (all vital in their times). </p>
<p>I do see your point about not slamming doors in people&#8217;s faces. However, I also respect Luke&#8217;s wish to filter out unsophisticated &#8216;tyre kickers&#8217; so he can do his best for his A-List clients.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m grateful to both of you for raising your points. I&#8217;m even more grateful that we can retain the civil tone of this forum. <img src='http://mybrc.myobnet.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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